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Good morning sir, I just got your number and is this the government agency?

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No sir, it's private.

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Okay, well I'm an air traffic control specialist.

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Like I say, I didn't have anywhere to report this.

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It happened about two and a half months ago.

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I was working on a mid-shift from midnight till late o'clock in the morning

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and about 2 or 2.30 that morning there was an object from about the northeast part of our,

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from the northeast quadrant of our station.

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It started trying, it was very high, I would say, oh jeez, over 30,000 at least.

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And it was moving and calculating what the time it took off from the northeast quadrant going southwest.

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It must have been doing at least close to 3,000 anyway, miles per hour.

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And then it stopped just about over the town of Bisbee, which is southwest of us.

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And of course at that altitude it must have been further southwest than Bisbee,

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but from my line of sight it looked like it was over Bisbee.

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And it was sort of a, oh, I wouldn't say green exactly, sort of like a dull green.

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And first thing I did I called Fort Wichuka Base Operations, which is over there on the other side of Bisbee.

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It's Fort Wichuka Libby Army Airfield.

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And asked me if he would check and see if he saw it.

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And excuse me just a moment.

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589 or 2L, I thought it was Roger, the altimeter is 3017.

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Okay, and I asked him to go outside and see if he could see it, you know, just about southwest of the Bisbee area there.

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And he confirmed that he did see it.

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And I called up Albert Gertie Center and asked me if he could pick up anything on the radar scope.

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And he said he did pick something up, but he thought it was a permanent echo.

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And then I checked with Tucson Approach Control, which is about 100 miles northwest of us here.

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And they said that it was out of their range, I couldn't see anything.

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But anyway, what I saw was this sort of dull green light, pretty big.

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I'd say it looked like, oh, Jesus, I don't know what size, because like I say it was very high.

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But it was moving about 30,000 miles an hour.

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And it stopped right over Bisbee.

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And the only way I can describe it, what it did when it stopped over there, was,

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have you ever seen one of these bees or flies or something hanging over garbage that just buzz back and forth in one little, uh,

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oh yes, radish going back and back like that?

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Well, that's the way it stayed there for a while.

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It must have stayed there for at least about, oh God, half an hour.

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And then it just zipped on southwest.

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I mean, it just flat moved out.

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I couldn't calculate any speed.

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Okay, when it came to a stop, did it appear to slow down or did it just stop abruptly?

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It just stopped abruptly.

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I was taking my weather observation.

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Actually, at that time we go outside, we have a little shack that we take our temperatures for a dew point and all that stuff.

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I looked up to see the judges sky cover.

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And at first I thought it was a satellite because we see him cross over once in a while, but it was too big.

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You could see a definite circle to it.

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I'm sorry, I have to ask you to wait a minute again.

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Go ahead.

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I'm going to say 9 or 638 Victor Douglas, go ahead.

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9 or 638 Victor Douglas, the Douglas Area Alpimeter 3017.

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So, like I said, it was circular or more or less anyway, it looked like it.

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Then I was looking for the sky cover and thought coming on and I just followed on through.

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It just looked kind of weird.

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Were there any motions or maneuvers of any kind?

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No, not when it first came out of the northeast.

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It just went in a straight line all the way down to stomping over in the southwest quadrant there over the area of Bisbee.

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But like I say, it had to be down further than that because of my line of sight.

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But the only movement too, it was when it stopped, it just started going back and forth like I described like a fly or a bee or something over it.

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Any estimate of size at all?

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It was pretty big.

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It was pretty big.

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From the altitude, I would say Jesus, at least a couple hundred feet anyway in diameter.

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Okay.

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But it was definitely not atmospheric phenomena because we've been trained for that stuff.

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Hold on just a minute.

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Douglas, my service needs hand-by-one please.

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Thank you.

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So anyway, that's about it sir.

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Okay.

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Do you know the date of that incident?

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No sir.

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I don't know exactly.

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I can say I just happened to see this letter that they sent to the chief over here on the UFO reporting.

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And I noticed your number there so I said what the heck I reported.

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Okay, about what time was it?

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It was about 2 or 2.30 in the morning.

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2 o'clock in the morning because we go out and take our weather at that time.

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But you figure about 2 months ago?

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About 2 to 2.5 months ago.

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And you're going to Alaska?

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At least that tree is up there for my heard.

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Well, we'd appreciate it hearing from you if you get anything up there.

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Okay sir, sure will.

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Thanks a lot.

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Yes sir.

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Bye.